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Mafalda Molinari and Amoreno Venica

Nati rispettivamente nel 1911 a Casali Malina (Orsària di Premariacco, UD) e 1906 a Ipplis. Residenti a Cerneglons (UD).

Informatore Pietro Juri

Nastro 1998/17 - Lato B                            Giovedì 15 ottobre 1998

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Molinari . [Dopo Caporetto, i tedeschi] ... sono venuti i tedeschi, a portar via le bestie.

Il nonno ha fatto un po' di resistenza e loro li hanno ammazzati. Tre morti in casa abbiamo avuto. Sono entrati armati, volevano portar via proprio la vacca che doveva partorire, lui si è opposto. Il nonno, visto che eravamo tanti bambini, ha detto: «Portatemi via tutte le altre, lasciatemi quella là» e loro gli hanno sparato.

Il nonno si chiamava Fabio Molinari. Dopo è morto anche suo fratello che era con lui in quell'occasione e che non era sposato. Non si è più ripreso da quella volta, è stato sempre male.

Il terzo morto sarebbe la nonna, sempre in quell'anno.

Guardi, eravamo tanti bambini, tre donne e mio padre; i fratelli erano tutti di là del Piave.

Dopo un anno che non ci si vedeva è arrivato uno zio, fratello di mio padre. Eravamo bambini e lui diceva: «Oh, come state, bambini, [ci] siete tutti?»

E noi: «Sì, noialtri ci siamo, ma i nonni non ci sono, i nonni non ci sono.»

All'epoca abitavamo di là della Malina [dove siamo passati adesso, dice Pietro Juri] in località chiamata Lippe o "Casali Malina", che sarebbe sotto Orsaria

«Ho tutto ancora davanti agli occhi», di quel periodo.

I tedeschi si sono presentati e sono entrati. Tutto quello che hanno trovato si sono messi a mangiare, e uccidere pollame, tutto.

D. Voi non potevate scappare?

R. How? And where would you escape? We stayed where we were in our house.

[Juri, intervenes and asks - Why the Germans did not arrive in Padua, in three days? Precisely because the troops, the bulk was lost in the countryside: drunk, drunk 24 hours of general and complete.]

An elderly this interview: "They killed the pig and drank the grease."

Molinari. We have always been firm where we lived, two kilometers away from here. Where to escape? Where would you go? ...

I remember che gli italiani [i soldati] scappavano. Erano tutti disorganizzati, però non avevano fatto malanni nelle case, non ci avevano rubato niente.

Mio padre è andato via di là del Piave, assieme agli altri militari italiani e ai suoi fratelli. Erano quattro fratelli, tutti militari e tutti quattro sono andati di là del Piave.

La nostra famiglia, che è rimasta qua, era composta dal nonno, la nonna e due cognate, mia mamma e la zia e in più noi bambini che eravamo in cinque, due bambine e tre maschi. Dell'altro ceppo, quello della zia, erano in altri tre bambini.

Lavoravamo la terra del conte Puppi di Moimacco. Non so se il conte sia left, but I think it got away.

During the years of German ... to eat little, you did not have anything, because at our house every two or three whole days net. And we were two families. What could you hide?

Luckily there were two families here in the country that brought us something and sometimes you could go forward because the rest of us to take everything in our house.

One day came the guards with a bunches of straw, a little. "Do not be taken away even that" they told the guards "when they are near shouted" police, police! "."

D. Thus, according to the leaders should not steal. Why steal the same, then?

R. to eat! It's always been so. One eats a lot and the other does not eat anything ...

None, however, has just died of starvation, the rest of us, no.

D. It 's true that some women were raped, children who are born of these German soldiers.

R. Yes, yes, they are born, yes.

D. Maybe the girls were okay?

R. No, I do not think. What I do not know I can say.

Juri. Personally I have known someone or is it a rumor?

A family. is compromising. There has been some violence, but intermarriage between Germans and the local girls, here, is not, while in the second war there have been marriages ...

Pavan. They came up to you to beg from other countries even poorer, from the mountains?

Molinari. They will come, but I do not remember.

D. When they arrived the Italians in 1918, do you remember?

R. I do not remember well when they arrived.

I remember my uncle David came and us children worked, what could be.
"Hey kids, you all!?
" Yes, the rest of us are, but grandparents there are, "we said.
" Unfortunately, I found out in Udine. "

had arrived in Udine and was gone from a tobacconist who was one of the country and was named Gildo Barazzutti . He knew what had happened and had informed his uncle that the Germans had killed his father and mother.

Barazza had a tobacco shop as you enter from here in Udine, passing the Tower, in Butterwick, the first house. Barazzutti This was a bit like a 'particular, a kind of caricature, but everyone who went there - why not go downtown to drink a glass of wine, went in the suburbs - all stopped by Barazza, whether they were either went to Udine. The stage from Barazzutti was essential, therefore he knew everything. [...]

D. How behaved Italians when they arrived?

R. I have no special memories.

Juri . Also because they lived a bit 'out of the country.

A family . [Lived] there where there is the ford, two hundred meters before ... not the last you see in the lower house near the canal, the Cividina. The ford was called Malina and the whole place was called Casali Malina.

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Amoreno Venica . I remember that we attacked four beasts of the cart and we escaped. Premariacco arrived on the bridge we stopped and we just turned the car blew the bridge.
There were two bridges: the old one had broken a little and it went into the other one Natisone.

I have not seen blow up the bridge, because the guards stopped us before, a couple of hundred meters before. There were Italian soldiers.

As soon as we turned the car we heard the explosion. Then we went down to Oleis, Manzano to Pavia [Udine]. At Pavia, we learned that the Germans were on the cut. We stopped at a house where the owners had fled. We stayed there for three days. To eat: a little 'home-made bread, a bit' of polenta, in short, we have arranged. On the cart were eight brothers, dad and mom. [...]

in Pavia, we saw no German. Italian soldiers, many, a whole column (which were taken prisoner). We were in the midst of a column. A column that has been Pradamano by up to Pavia, with the wagons, with mules. We found ourselves in the middle with our chariot drawn by four cows, two front and two behind. [To bring them with us ... to relieve, if necessary, on the way].

To drive the chariot was my dad who was named Dominic. Mother and we children were on the wagon, it was raining.

On the wagon we had put a bit 'of everything, including wine, a cask of wine, turkeys and geese. Up, everything.

son explains. It was a great car, four-wheeled wagons like the characteristic of the place. At the center had a floor that could be off, say, six feet tall and three to four meters long.

Venica . It was a barrel by two hectoliters ... turkeys, geese. I sat on the wagon, and it rained. Without there in the column ... we went home.

1998/18 Tape - Side A

Discussion origin (ancient Slavic? Selva-black?) Cerneglons name, now living in the territory of which the family of the interviewee.

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Venica . Returned from Pavia, at home we did not find anything. We had two heifers and those we had taken a neighbor, who then have it returned. But the pork with twelve piglets, two of which were ready to be killed, had disappeared. Inside the mobile home but were still there, but the furniture once it was known, not like now: a table, a little 'chairs.

A Ipplis no one could escape, that I know, none. The only people who have tried to run away we were.

D. How was life during the year the Austrian occupation?

R. Like polenta, ate. We went with the cart to the mill and the mill was Leproso. [...]. The owner of that was Bergolini.

The Germans were often so much so that my mother - who wanted to save a turkey - they shot her. There were two Austrian soldiers. They have not taken because one of them moved the barrel of a gun that his companion had counted on my mom. He won my mother and two of them went away without turkey.
Eh such moments in there!
My mother's name was Caterina Gasparini.

We went to the mill and was all the guns in ditches, abandoned. We take the rifle and shot the mulberries as shooting!
But many kids are picking up the bombs on the ground dead. They saw the bombs, the taking and pulled up. Hand grenades left by the Italians before escaping. In the early days there were weapons everywhere. [...]

When Italians came back we were out in the country and we have not seen anything. [...] For us it was an ordinary day, work to collect what little was left.

I remember the Russians, poor people, prisoners. They came to the door and: 'Mama, cucurussa, cucurussa ", which means corn, corn on the cob. Contented themselves with even a handful of cucurussa . We had the sheaves with the barrel of corn and the Russians poured it over all to find some small piece of corn on the cob as well.
Eh poor people, the Russians. Did nothing, were taken prisoner by the Germans, always Ipplis, at Le Baronesse. It was a castle, a villa.

When they arrived Italians have not played the bells, because there were no bells, had taken away.

Molinari. Neither do I remember that there has been some party to the return of the Italians. The bells were all taken away.

Venica . I remember we had to save a cow through the woods bordering the Baronesse, Ipplis because there are hills, was a forest of acacias. And be careful, always a guard, who the beast muggisse, alone in the woods because the beast would roar. This happened during the retreat of the Germans ... and two pigs in a tub in the middle of cornfields.

After a while 'time that Italians have arrived we received a horse, but can not remember if we paid for it or if we have received for free.

She has received every farmer, a horse to work. He was a horse of the military, a good horse, I do not know the breed. The front was attached to the cows, and go! Four or six cows were more a horse for plowing. Of course, those who had, otherwise you just plowing with cows.

Repayment of the war damage we received when I was a soldier in '26. They pulled along until the jury has said that we did not have much damage but [...] those who had minor damage have pulled more!

The Germans left a cow for family and those who had not even found himself with three-four cows "of war damages" and who had two ended up with one.

[Once] the Germans gave us a voucher for the wine they had taken. My father went by the police in the country and [they said] above was written: "The old cat drink wine without paying." It was a proverb, a joke written in German.

Eh, would be so many things, but who remembers!

In that year the Germans did not go to school but to work.

I the first job I did was on the toll of Ipplis. It took 12 years to go to that place, and I was 11. But my mother with a couple of chickens to the station master made me put on "Crosada. But it was still before they left the Italians, when there was a train leaving from Moimacco and went almost to Gorizia.

was a single track, narrow gauge. I was on the box with the red flag to stop if I saw a wagon or a car across the street. I took 90 pounds per month. There were many ... and eating and drinking by soldiers.

My father was not at war, had more than four children and worked the fields. My mother worked at home.

reserves face [Isonzo], when they sent them to rest, were in Thick of Cividale, on the road to the Horn of Rosazzo. There was a large field. There came the airlines ... the 4:00 to 5:00 that were left.

They stayed there until 15-20 days by reforming the company and again at the front.

I saw them, yes. The place was about two miles from our home. I remember a lieutenant of sharpshooters l'ho trovato a Bologna, dopo. Io ero carabiniere e lui comandava la mia tenenza. Mi ha chiesto se conoscevo la zona di Villa Rubini di Spessa dove c'era il campo.

Mi ricordo che poi questi soldati venivano da noi e mangiavano la colza e la condivano con un grasso qualsiasi, pur di sfamarsi, o meglio, pur di sentire qualcosa di diverso, come per una golosità.

Quando ero con la bandierina rossa mangiavo dove era il comando e alla sera mi portavo a casa una bella porzione di pastasciutta. Ogni giorno pastasciutta. Facevano di quegli spaghetti larghi così, me lo ricordo ancora, conditi con tanto di quel formaggio che non si staccavano neppure.

La colza l'adoperavamo instead of broccoli, boiled and seasoned with salt oil and vinegar. The soldiers who took the sharing with grease from the kitchen. It was a delicacy for them, a bit 'of vegetables. [...]

The railroad I worked on ranged from Moimacco Mossa, right up to the front, almost. Carrying weapons, bombs.

A Moimacco there was also a military court, and where was the Count de Puppi, there were across the board.

unloaded from a train that went from Udine to Cividale, Moimacco station, and from there the train was leaving.

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First Martin, Rovarè of San Biagio di Callalta (TV)

Born October 26, 1907. Montello resident in the village Santa Maria della Vittoria.

1986/25 Tape - Side A October 26, 1986

Our family broke up in 1921. Before we ate them all at pignata and we were 127 people, but who lived in four houses. He had tenants of the Baron honest country.

A house was Rovarè of San Biagio, town Ca 'Lion , Callalta another along the way, another long the calle Fatutto locations and one in the town of Breda. [...]

We paid rent to the Baron Onesti kinds of country ... [explains the type of agricultural management and production company] .

1986/25 Tape - Side B

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In 1917 I lived in Rovarè along the area known in Callalta Fatutto. From Treviso to go to Ponte di Piave on the left. The land was crossed by the railroad, the house was beyond the railway and was Callalta border with our country.

Three days before de San Martin ... now had twenty days they had closed the schools because there was the troop that passed on Callalta and had to do three miles of road to go to school, you had to walk along the Callalta up near the police of San Biagio ...

When the defeat came I was a kid. I saw all these soldiers and wondered: "Where they go, pores fioi ?

All those soldiers who walked, and we had kids excited.

There were those who went to the park bulls seize the beasts, and also came to our house. Were mounted on horseback cows and oxen were walking along the Ponte di Piave Callalta coming from and going to Treviso. For three days.

After - all of a sudden - blocked. Reverse.

Why, I had explained to the officers, [first] Cadorna was going to do the line of the barrier on the Po, but that came after they made on the Piave. And we would have been even five hundred meters from the Piave.

As they began to go back, came in for our house in the countryside, which was also large as well as long.

One evening he came into a platoon of police and told my grandfather, "Grandpa, where are you the haystack? "My grandfather mentioned it to him:" You there, "because my father was a soldier too.

We had a kitchen as long as the whole house and the police have put the straw along the walls of the kitchen, on the one hand and on the other in the middle of the table, and have not even bothered. They stood there talking, so, with a glass of wine on the table, but those who held a Boccalone ten liters, when he came in a captain bold.

They did not ask permission. He came in, introduced himself there, he looked around, "Grandpa, those who prepared this straw here? "And my grandfather:" Poor fioi, must sleep ... '. The captain is down, took the dagger he had on boots, and he planted on the table: "You go and find another place," he said, "because this is for me," And even if they were policemen, they had leave.

After less than a quarter of an hour came the bold, who took over from the police.

The captain entered last, and says to his grandfather: "Here there is no wine, where you have your cake?" And the grandfather "Come in question Fiol, come from here " . He was trembling with fear because of this, an antiquated ... and brought the captain where, under a ladder, there was a barrel of five hectoliters, so a big barrel.

Sotto, who knows el spinel [spigot], the barrels ... My grandfather took el bocal [pitcher] and went to tap wine, and the captain back. When he saw this spinel, before you fill el bocal the captain pulls out his gun. Three or four gunshots ... and he was Italian. [Drilled the barrel].

the morning as they left early. For their part, and I do not know where they have sent ... about nine and a half to ten are within three officers. I do not remember that they can, and I happily, "Look, I said, there are soldiers still here."

They told me: "Bocia, where is your father?"

"My father is military," I replied.

"Who you home?"

"My grandfather

"Go call your grandfather!"

was in the barn. I went, "Grandpa, it turns out that there are soldiers who want to talk with you." - "Who am I?" - "I do not know, are mounted on horseback"

And my grandfather comes out.

"Grandpa - he said - that there porch, you must free. Bring out the tanks ... "

There were wagons, versors [plow], rakes, everything.

"Why, fiol?" ha detto mio nonno.

«Perché ci occorre a noi» – «Si ma io... » – «Beh, fai quello che puoi»

Dopo un'ora, un'ora e mezzo, è entrato uno squadrone di cavalleria e hanno tirato fuori tine , tinassi , tutti quanti gli attrezzi che si adoperavano per l'agricoltura. Hanno tirato due corde metalliche da una parte all'altra ma per [legare] i cavalli non erano ancora sufficienti, allora hanno piantato una corda nel cortile, distante quattro metri da casa.

Then I went on the floor, the floor was full of corn, and made the palota [shovel] Wood - who once had that palota of wood affixed to mix the cob - and throw out corn for the balcony, to feed the horses.

These soldiers have said his grandfather not to leave, because "two or three days the Germans go by and you stay here." It must have been 7 or 8 November.

Instead, the 11, the day of San Martin, when it was three and a half to four entered a platoon of policemen, with rifles and bayonets, "Away from here, away from here, away, away because there is the last [...] train from Spercenigo. "

My mother asked," But where are you taking us? "He was cooking the goose for the feast of St. Martin and he had to leave there all the pot, poultry ... beasts, filled the barn.

led us to Spercenigo and we boarded the train.

We asked: "Where are you taking us?" - "Oh, they told, just beyond Treviso, Padua before. 'And we ran three nights and three days. They took us to Naples!

was a troop who had three steam engines and must have been too long. Because he had taken on people from all sides, including those of Friuli, not just ours. After you have attached the other translated to other machines.

A car was left without coal when Ferrara was down there for those campaigns, which are those vineyards with the poles. They stopped and went to raise the stakes for the vines to fire on the car of the train.

I told her it would take una giornata a raccontare tutto!

A Napoli, quando siamo arrivati ci hanno messo sulle case dell'Ospizio Marino. [...]

Siamo arrivati come questa sera verso le sette e domani mattina ci hanno messo a dormire su un salone. Si era cinque figli, e mia madre fa sei.

Alla mattina passava il dottore a fare la visita e ha trovato un fratello mio, quattro anni più giovane, che aveva tutti gli occhi rossi e ha detto: «Questo bisogna portarlo sull'ospedale». Mentre lo portavano via, mia madre si è messa a piangere. Il dottore le ha detto: «Signora, mettiamo un cartello sulla porta, che lei non is disturbed. As long as his son does not heal, she does not move from here. "

Then they started coming of the Lords to bring candy and this and that, for these refugees who arrived, and even things to wear. On the third day we were there, now was flattered when he saw this group of gentlemen ran to get something.

One afternoon, about three o'clock, a man as big as my son, well, a little bigger, to me: 'Come here, Bocia, come here. "

I got closer, I thought it would give me something, instead I asked, "Where is the Dad?

'and military'

"Your mother, where is it?"

"It's in room, room '

" How many of you "

" We are five '

"Vammi to call your mother," and I go.

"sea, come fora that ghe xe a co Sior that you speak vol."

My mother is coming out, con le lacrime agli occhi, e lui:

«Signora, guardi, se lei accetta ... io - ormai ne ho trovati degli altri qua - mi occorre [ho posto per] ancora un poca di gente.»

Questo sior era il principe Colonna di Napoli.

A Posillipo c'è l' Ospizio Marino , e loro l'avevano vuoto. Il principe ha detto: «Se lei mi dice [di sì], prepari quel po' di robe che ha e io vengo qui col tram» – che là c'erano i tram che circolavano – «e vi porto there. "

My mother said yes, and we were there.

[in our family] we were alone and the mother, because all the others were scattered. We have not gathered that when, in '19, we came home after the war.

At home we have found three cabins.

Our house was gone, but that of that of Faon Calion and had remained standing, but was left standing only the skeleton of the houses . Except that of Calion - that the stable was made with slab of cement - the military, or to fire, or to make shelters and refuges have pulled out all the floors, balconies, doors. It was all gone.

And the campaign? You could not even leave until the raid was over. They did the raid before dismissing the German prisoners. But three months we have been under surveillance by the guards of the military would not let us go out into the countryside, because if you went out of ammunition were everywhere.

I ran away several times, I saw a little 'ground move, I found a "Miss". He knows they were the girls, once? They were a piece of wood so long, with a bussolotto come quelli della birra. Nella punta avevano l'elica.

Avevo visto gli altri soldati come facevano ... l'elica aveva un cerchietto [na sc'ionèa] . Bisognava tirarlo via e svitarlo.Quando la si lanciava con il manico e [la signorina] cadeva, l'elica aveva un percussore che andava a battere la capsula e scoppiava.

Così, quando io ne ho trovata una, ho fatto anch'io come avevo visto fare gli altri, perché quando si è boce si imparano le malagrazie alle svelte. Ho preso di quelle pedate sul culo, quando hanno sentito questa schioppettata!

[The girls] were like grenades, but other than Sipe.

We got home after the war, in September 1919. It had been almost a year after the war. There were still German prisoners and the land was not reclaimed.

We had to [wait] because in the spring after the winter we never could do anything. Even sow. Because the screws and mulberry trees, for the most part, they were all mowed down at this height here, because the fighting had come beyond the Piave and we had five hundred yards from the bank.

We began to sow in '20, in the spring of 1920. [...]

In 1921 he was still on the barracks. A Faon had three cabins and the other strains of the family had two each. Others were placed in Teze, if there were.

After co-operatives have done and now the floors have begun to put in place the houses were left standing. [Because] one was completely destroyed: that was also the closest to the line of fire and was on the village called San Bartolo.

Then came that we are divided because there was no room for all, and we parted in 1921.

My poor father with my older brother took a year off in the swamp of the Seven Sisters in San Stino, between the railway and Triestina.

there the first year has been even worse failure. Next came that Mussolini made the reclamation, which pulled to drain the swamp of the Seven Sisters, and we took malaria.

us who came from places that there was no malaria, we were the first to take it, because those who were born there were more resistant. [...]

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John Geronazzo Fasol said, funeral di Valdobbiadene (TV)

Born April 28, 1911, residing in funeral.

interview are present (and involved) Vanzin his wife Josephine, born in 1915 in San Vito di Valdobbiadene Geronazzo and his cousin Catherine, born on May 6, 1907 funeral.

Tape 1994/31 - Side B        23 agosto 1994

Giovanni . Siamo stati costretti ad andare in Carnia a Interneppo, vicino al lago di Cavazzo, sotto il monte Festa.

Qua, proprio davanti alla porta di casa nostra a un certo punto è arrivata una granata. Erano i nostri italiani che dal Monfenera tiravano di qua.

Nel borgo di Funer è arrivata una bomba incendiaria giusto su una casa che aveva anche il fienile, che si è incendiato, [ce l'ho ancora] right before my eyes. And here, on our area there were artillery batteries [Austro-Hungarian]: 7:00 to 8:00 pulling pieces from there.

Wife. refugees We went with our parish priest Fr John Tura. We climbed all the mountains [...] he sees there, we went out "in the Fountain" and we were in Pordenone. The memory I have is that they went "to love" to the doors, with flour. They took me in his arms, because I had two years.

And behind the priest throughout the country, indeed all those who wanted to leave, because many are also remained here.

On our house we had the German command and Grappa fired directly over the village and our home, near schools in San Vito, the big house that's on the road. It was just fired from Grappa, not from Monfenera. In addition to the command was also the Red Cross.

From Grappa with the telescope we could see every step we did, it seems a bit 'in Sarajevo as you see on television, although it is not that we We just did it a massacre.

Now I live in via Col de Roer [along the road that starts at the winery Mionetto].

Nearby is the shrine of Our Lady of Caravaggio, with parties on May 26 and September 8.

Geronazzo The house is great, there was once a dairy. It is an important patriarchal farm household.

Cousin . We have brought in Friuli Alessio, Lake Cavazzo. It was a country in the mountains, no campaign. It was hard to find food, we had to come down to Udine "in love".

I left [for refugees] are with John and we were divided when you get to Gemona. There siamo decisi a partire dopo che è arrivata una granata che ha fatto quattro morti e cinque feriti. Perché le varie famigliole che stavano su per le rive sono venute tutte qua, perché gli sembrava di essere più sicure. Avevamo tutto il portico della casa pieno [di gente]. Si aveva messo un poco di fieno e si dormiva là mentre gli italiani già tiravano, finché un bel giorno è arrivata la granata, proprio qua.

Ci sono stati dei morti, e quelli sono restati qui; noi siamo andati profughi.

Le famiglie che erano venute a rifugiarsi da noi erano quelle di Franco Mattiazzo [...]. La nostra casa era, sembrava, un po' più fuori shot.

After the grenade the Germans have brought up the streets in the big house of Piva and from there on we have moved into villages in Friuli. With the truck took us first to St. Mary's Lake where they stayed for 15 days, the parties to Follina well Follina. After they took us on Furlan and there have been a year Rabioso .

There were twenty in our family before the war, and we stayed in thirteen of twenty. Two or three died here two to three deaths there; un pochi con la guerra, un pochi sotto la bomba.

Da profughi c'era tanta fame. Dei nostri nessuno è morto di fame, ma una famiglia che era là vicino ha avuto qualcuno che è morto per fame. Era la famiglia Reboli.

Gli abitanti del posto non "potevano vedere" i profughi, perché andavano a carità e loro non ne avevano che per loro. Perché erano paesetti di montagna, nascosti su di là. Allora i profughi più grandi, le donne più anziane - io ero bambina - venivano giù per Udine a carità e qualcosa portavano a casa.

Giovanni . Charles's grandfather was still alive Geronazzo, who was about 80 years.

On our soil, the Germans had set up seven shots of artillery.

When I had returned from refugee just want to go and see where they had placed the Germans. There were still piles of unused ammunition, four or five stacks, after he came to clean up the Genius.

Before we leave, the Germans made us go over the Col de Roer, a mound, who is here behind. Besides us there were Agostinetto Geronazzo, the Franks and Vettoretti. By now it was not known that most holy name.

They were all sent away and we were one of the few still left here.

I had three brothers in the army, including a volunteer. Floriano were - in the artillery - Luigi and Carlo, the volunteer. One was on Salaroli , was part of the front of Grappa. All three have returned.

the evening before being transferred came from a bombing Grappa, and has targeted just the Col de Roer. There they were placed in a cellar, and about 15 people were accommodated in other buildings around.

A bomb arrived 4:00 to 5:00 meters ahead of us on the patio, which was bare ground, and went under instead of bursting, making all cracks in the ground.

1994/32 Tape - Side A

summary. From our house, where we live even now, we have been forced by the Germans to move on Col de Roer , and there we were bombed.

My grandfather did not want to go away at all costs.

bombing was the day of the week. Initially, the bombs did not hit us, then came the bomb failed to explode and then they adjusted the shot and I heard [and from] coming. I said "take me now", instead it went a few meters ahead to strike just the cellar where he had amassed most of the people. It went down to the cellar, seven died on the spot and several wounded.

Then the Germans took us all away with the carts. Even me and my mom we got. Together with me were two other younger brothers to me, my two sisters (Justine & Returns) [...] in all including my dad and my mom eravamo in nove.

Quando eravamo verso Follina, era un tempo incerto e a un certo punto è iniziato a nevicare. Abbiamo fatto la strada in queste condizioni senza niente, perché nella fretta non avevamo potuto prenderci su niente. 

Eravamo come quei poveri disgraziati che sono profughi là nella Jugoslavia, un fac-simile, c'è poca differenza.

Poi siamo stati portati a Gemona e da là mandati nei vari paesi. Noi a Internèppo, un paese di montagna, circondato da tre montagne grandi, con scogli di roccia e alla base c'era il lago di Cavazzo. Poco lontano, sulla punta di questo Lake was a country called Sampiago [Somplago].

First time my grandfather ... Thanks to him we were able to overcome the crisis of war, and why are there not there anymore. My grandfather was able to take something away with money and the money has helped the whole family, is that our cousins. In this way we managed to overcome the crisis.

Carraro Mother Teresa was the center, one that most busied himself to bring out the hunger. In front of her and other young people with her, was heading for countries in search of something to eat, "In love". A bit 'of milk, a bit' of flour, with the bag, with dàlmede [shoes, wooden clogs] feet. And sometimes I tried to go with my mom.

Not that the locals were bad, but they had little or nothing about them too.

When we started from Valdobbiadene, the first stage after Follina was Victor.

My mom was able to pull up a little wood and tried to make a "foghetto" for the polenta, but he had not even calièra [cauldron]. He asked the residents of the area and have provided a great caliera iron. We also found begging in the flour and water ... and better than we were already anticipating the polenta comes a German tank that made us turn off the heat and we threw it all away. Think of us as we were, with the hunger we had.

The journey from Col de Roer Gemona, with the Germans, lasted for days, in these conditions.

A Interneppo has affected the local priest to take refuge in the various groups and we are placed in a small house behind also had a bit 'of garden.

I got away with thanks to my grandfather, who had taken something away. To my knowledge, none of the villagers died, as a refugee.

And when I see on television Yugoslavia and that other war that is there, in Rwanda, and show these poor people who move because there is war, and sees them with something on his back, here, a facsimile was us.

then when we got home, everything was upside down. Fortunately, our house was a bit 'hidden throws del Grappa, but not so those on the Col de Roer. We found several holes we, too, but not as many on the Col De Roer.

Our house was struck, however, in particular, a big bomb. In addition, beams and balconies were gone, but overall the walls were still standing, one of the few.

Come back my dad and my uncle have worked to restore the house. In our area there were admissions of the Germans in these shelters and there were many beams which were used to repair a bit 'houses at a time.

In particular behind our house was a shelter great more than others, a real tunnel under the hill. But there were other tunnels along the road that goes down to the countryside to escape from the artillery. It was 20-30 meters long hospitalizations in the hill a bit older and our 'time to have them removed, taking the beams and timber. But beyond a certain point they went and left everything there, you shut yourself inside.

Our family was large, had a brandy distillery. After the war he started again, but it was short, only two or three years, buying back the equipment.

But once more, before della guerra, sotto il bisnonno c'era anche la latteria che poi è stata chiusa. Mio nonno poi teneva le vacche in montagna d'estate, sulla Barberia, Colteron e Tendanela [?], Mariech (che adesso l'ha presa l'Ispettorato). Eravamo sempre proprietari.

Da profughi, ce la siamo cavati per merito di mio nonno che aveva dei soldi e di mia madre che ha buttato via ogni riguardo ed è andata a carità.

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L'unico acquedotto che funzionava dopo la guerra era in piazza a Valdobbiadene dove c'è la banca. Là c'era l'unica fontana che ancora funzionava e tutti si andava là con le carriole, con qualsiasi mezzo, una processione a prendersi l'acqua.

Sul Col De Roer hanno fatto una tabula rasa, una specie di Montecassino.

Nastro 1994/34 - Lato A

Aggiunte e precisazioni, 15 settembre 1994

Sono sposato con Giuseppina Vanzin dal 1946. Ho avuto due figli, un maschio e una femmina.

Sono figlio di Giuseppe Geronazzo e Teresa Carraro.

The fact Revine . When our group of refugees was already anticipating the polenta ... does not even seem real, at the climax comes two German soldiers who have thrown everything on the ground, without eating it. We were to kill (to say).

A Interneppo trouble with my grandfather helped everyone, because by the grace of God had taken away the savings he had, and that was our salvation.

Interneppo Among the residents there were those who did and compassion for what they could, helping out. But poricani , had too little and what little they had when they held. Fortunately we had the grandfather was little 'as in the last war, who had no money he could find the stuff on the black market.

Then it was my mother who had more courage to face the situation. It started in the morning to go to charity with a little bag with shoulder strap, with her children.

We were nine children. Three were at war, refugees were three males and three females, one of which died shortly after the war.

A Gemona was the command of the Germans and there, not far away, had found my own accommodation aunt, Gigia: two rooms for her and her daughter. Me and two brothers when we went beyond going to charity and this Gigetta aunt, a cousin of my grandmother, he had compassion on seeing us. He told us to go in there and prepared, coated with the boxcutter, two slices of bread with apple jam jar that had a tin. There seemed to have had lunch.

My aunt had a beautiful young daughter, perhaps I do not know whether she could have the jam by the Germans.

A Interneppo there was a church and the pastor was once a Sunday to put some time and my grandfather brought flour, milk and bread.

Interneppo was the face of the mountain festival.

was a mountain forest, but also many rocky points and rock was a cave. Each time the Germans were doing the searches, with their wheezing [whistles?] ... of patrols, especially in recent times before the arrival of the Italians, but they never managed to find the cave.

I told my mom that there were many deserters in the cave and Italian women of the place at midnight brought him to eat. The Germans were also on patrol in our rooms, but never found them.

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